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Message from Italy to England and France
Gentlemen,
What is on the hit parade....
Erik, who is your moving unit for ION.
What do youwant from me.
Andy
Message from Turkey to Russia
Gotcha. Agreed that Ion isn't likely, but it's our best shot. Things
look to be coming to a close soon.
jason
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
> What is on the hit parade....
Well, as far as you're concerned, the chief tactical question is:
> Erik, who is your moving unit for ION.
and I have no idea what's on his mind. Yes, I've written him, but I count
myself lucky if he happens to respond to my press.
> What do you want from me.
Would you support KIE - BER, please? I don't know whether I'll take
advantage. . . Let me know if you have something else in mind for MUN.
Ben
Message from Italy to England
Ben,
> > What is on the hit parade....
> Well, as far as you're concerned, the chief tactical question is:
>
> > Erik, who is your moving unit for ION.
> and I have no idea what's on his mind. Yes, I've written him, but I count
> myself lucky if he happens to respond to my press.
Likewise.
> > What do you want from me.
> Would you support KIE - BER, please? I don't know whether I'll take
> advantage. . . Let me know if you have something else in mind for MUN.
Done.
Message from Italy to France
Erik,
the silence from your corner is quite disconcerting.
Andy
Message from France to Russia
Eric:
Your assessment of Italy's game-throwing abilities appears pretty spot
on, but we couldn't run the risk of irking him until we were fairly
certain that your solo threat had been completely reduced. Clearly, with
Munich and St. P no longer in your hands, it has been; my only fear is
that I may have allowed Andy too much of a rebirth.
In any case, I am now going to have to push to edge him out -- going the
other way against Ben clearly isn't positionally advantageous right now.
As such, I am now willing to support any moves you might make against
Andy and vice versa. Obviously, we're not in a great position to do much
for one another, though Munich is up for discussion.
You're at 13 now, plus Smy, so I can't allow you to take all four
Italian centers, but any division of them points the way to, at the very
least, an EFR draw, and makes me feel more secure. As such, I'd love to
get your support into Munich, but I don't know what I can offer to make
that enticing. Perhaps a two-turn effort to get F Gre to the Adr, with
support from French F Ion? I can also move Lyo - Tun, forcing him to
choose what to do with A Ven.
Erik
Message from France to England
Ben:
Russia's 13 + 1 Turkish + 4 Italian = solo, so we need to grab two
Italian centers and then we (or at least I) can breathe easy. Are you
willing to consider support for Bur - Mun, while I also strik Lyo - Tus?
Erik
Message from France to England and Italy
The silence is a sign of stress, not of conspiracy. If I were really
after you, I would have built an army in Mar. In any case, Russia is
almost out of solo range, but could use a little more knocking back.
Andy, I think getting Tri back this turn is unlikely; as such, can I
count on support for F Tun - Ion? We need to get the Med good and
plugged up.
Ben, you could consider Swe - Bal - Lvn. Might not be too defended.
Thoughts?
Erik
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
I don't know how serious you were about wrapping up c2, but if you /were/
serious, I would appreciate you letting me back into BER. The reason
being, it then makes it safe for us to eliminate Andy, and even in BER I
would not be able to advance further.
Thoughts?
Ben
Message from England to France
Erik -
> Russia's 13 + 1 Turkish + 4 Italian = solo, so we need to grab two
> Italian centers and then we (or at least I) can breathe easy. Are you
> willing to consider support for Bur - Mun, while I also strik Lyo - Tus?
Hm. It wouldn't be enough to *take* the two centers - you'd have to hold
them, as well. . .
Let's not rush things - if you get TUN into ION, so much the better, though
I suspect Andy will counter with TYS - ION. Which may be just as good,
with LYO - TYS and MAR - LYO, doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
Ben
Message from Italy to England and France
>
> The silence is a sign of stress, not of conspiracy. If I were really
> after you, I would have built an army in Mar. In any case, Russia is
> almost out of solo range, but could use a little more knocking back.
Ok.
>
> Andy, I think getting Tri back this turn is unlikely; as such, can I
> count on support for F Tun - Ion? We need to get the Med good and
> plugged up.
>
Absolutely
> Ben, you could consider Swe - Bal - Lvn. Might not be too defended.
Just let me know if you are going this route Ben.
Can I get support from Burgandy?
thanks
Andy
Message from Italy to England
Ok...I have a very gut feeling that Erik is going to attack me.
I am not sure what to do.....
what do you suggest.
Andy
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
> Ok...I have a very gut feeling that Erik is going to attack me.
Your instincts are close. He asked me about it.
> I am not sure what to do.....
You do nothing other than what you've promised. I told him not to attack
you & I think he won't.
> what do you suggest.
Sit tight. It's not coming, I don't think. And I should know - presumably
MUN would be part of the package, so he would need my help.
So. Play nice.
Ben
Message from Italy to England
> So. Play nice.
Ben...
Ok....I can do that. Regardless of my other moves, you would have my
support.
Andy
Message from Observer to Observer
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 01:44:00 -0000
> From: "sumadartson16" <pbergeron@gmx.net>
> Subject: Austria
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> First off, after having quickly scan all the messages of c2f & b,
> I must say I'm a bit surprise by the apparent lack of comments
> about the game from the observer after the start. Was the game
> that boring or is there another board where all the juicy bits are
> stashed ;-)
Yes, I too have fallen sadly behind.
[snipity snip]
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 17:49:57 +0100
> From: Christian Hagenah <christian@hagenah.de>
> Subject: Re: Austria
>
> > Anyway, now that I'm there to read your comments, I would
> > appreciate hearing about my play and what I should try to do
> > to improve it (if you feel my play was just plain stupid, go
> > ahead and say so and why, as long it's not me but my play
> > you're calling stupid, it's fine by me). On my side, I will try to
> > answer any question you might have.
>
> I think your opening tactic (especially F Tri-Ven) was right, because Andy
> always looked for possibilities to get your centers.
I am surprised by the positive reception that this got from the other commentators. I got the impression that the
lack of flexibility concerning that move was what got Andy offside, and I could understand Andy's frustration with
it.
> But in the Winter 1901
> you made fatal mistakes:
>
> 1. You didn't talked to Turkey about his build. So it came that the build
> surprised you. I'm quite sure you could have persuaded Turkey to build a
> fleet. But you didn't even asked him. So he had the free choice.
>
> 2. Your reaction to Turkey after the builds was too crude (especially as it
> was your failure that Turkey built an army). You neither had a good
> relationship with Italy nor with Russia. Therefore you needed Turkey. You
> made it easy for Russia to get Turkey on his side.
I don't give Russia credit for that. It was one off the cuff comment from Andy which worked the oracle, as a recall
he told Jason a complete lie about Austria "asking him (Andy) for help against Bulgaria" and then he just sat back
and watched Jason's paranoia run wild.
Regards
Peter
Message from England to France and Russia
Eric -
Ok, the deadline is pretty much upon us, but I don't think what I have to
say is particular to this phase.
If you would like to see the draw whittled and the game wrapped up, there
are two things you could do to make it easy:
1. Return BER to me. Because I could defend it, it would make it harder
for you to be thrown a solo. Can you be thrown one now? I admit, it would
be difficult. But I think with me in BER, it would be impossible, and I do
not think I could advance from that position any further against you, so
hopefully you will not see it as too threatening.
2. Take SMY. This would compensate for the loss of BER and limit your
southern fleet strength so Erik could take care of business more freely in
the south.
Frankly I do not feel strongly one way or the other about whether it is
time to begin cutting out the weak links. But if you want to do it, I
think this would probably be enough to grease the wheels. I haven't
discussed these points with Erik yet - apologies to my friend in France, if
I am speaking out of turn.
Ben
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
Still no word from Erik. Surprise!
RUH is supporting MUN.
Ben
Message from Master to all
Players,
Time on USTX got screwed up a bit, so I've extended the deadline by an hour.
Please use it wisely.
Also, please be sure to review the orders that the judge echoes back to you.
In a few games lately, I've noticed that people have been late because they
omitted orders for one or two units.
Also, also, if you are late, please try to get your moves in as soon after the
deadline as possible. Let's not hold the game up any more than necessary.
Thanks,
Greg, GM
C2
Message from Italy to England
> Andy -
> Still no word from Erik. Surprise!
>
> RUH is supporting MUN.
I heard from him yesterday, all he did was reaffirm I was supporting him
to the ION
England: Fleet Baltic Sea SUPPORT Army Kiel → Berlin
England: Fleet Barents Sea SUPPORT Army St Petersburg
England: Fleet English Channel → Belgium
England: Fleet Helgoland Bight → Kiel
England: Army Kiel → Berlin
England: Fleet North Atlantic Ocean HOLD
England: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT Army Sweden → Denmark
England: Army Ruhr SUPPORT Italian Army Munich
England: Army St Petersburg SUPPORT Russian Army Moscow
England: Army Sweden → Denmark
France: Army Brest HOLD
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT Italian Army Munich
France: Fleet Gulf of Lyon → Western Mediterranean
France: Fleet Marseilles → Gulf of Lyon
France: Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea SUPPORT Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea → Ionian Sea (*void*)
Italy: Fleet Adriatic Sea SUPPORT French Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
Italy: Army Munich SUPPORT English Army Kiel → Berlin
Italy: Fleet Naples SUPPORT French Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
Italy: Army Venice → Trieste (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Aegean Sea SUPPORT Turkish Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Ionian Sea
Russia: Army Albania SUPPORT Army Trieste
Russia: Army Berlin SUPPORT French Army Burgundy → Munich (*void, destroyed*)
Russia: Army Bohemia SUPPORT French Army Burgundy → Munich (*void*)
Russia: Army Bulgaria → Serbia
Russia: Fleet Constantinople → Smyrna
Russia: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Turkish Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Ionian Sea
Russia: Army Livonia HOLD
Russia: Army Moscow SUPPORT Army Livonia
Russia: Army Prussia SUPPORT Army Berlin
Russia: Army Trieste HOLD
Russia: Army Vienna SUPPORT Army Trieste
Russia: Army Warsaw → Silesia
Turkey: Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Ionian Sea (*bounce*)
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